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Nepročitano 01-03-10, 12:42   #71
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Mislim da nije.
Ako se ne varam (ako se varam, neka me netko ispravi), zivotinje se obicno ne prejedaju (psi su iznimka). Nije problem u djetelini, nego u dusiku na korijenu djeteline. Zato krava ne umre ako se prejede djeteline, nego zbog toga sto pojede dusik, dok cupa djetelinu s korijenom na djetelistu. Pokosena djetelina nema korijen, dakle nema dusika, dakle nije opasna. Gdje bi seljaci stigli da za svaku kravu, svinju i kokos moraju paziti da se ne prejedu? Mislite da pastiri paze svaku ovcu u stadu, da se ne prejede?
Btw, odrasla sam na selu, nismo imali krave (imala ih je baka, tj. ima ih jos uvijek), ali moji jos uvijek imaju svinje i kokosi i znam ponesto o uzgoju domacih zivotinja.
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Nepročitano 01-03-10, 13:33   #72
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ako se ne varam ovo već predugo ide. moje bake nema već 20 god. ono što sam napisala do toga stojim. ukoliko ćemo i dalje razglabati što i kako krave jedu onda treba otvoriti temu o tome. za mene je razgovor o kravama tu gotov.




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postalno je zamorno i naporno gledat kak se svaka napisana broji...


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Usuditi cu se pa cu reci da je to sve napisano za "vrijeme gdje su krave bili krave" a ne strojevi za mlijeko.
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Ispricavam se na offtopicarenju (iako se meni ne cini da je to bilo offtopic, ali ok).
Mislila sam da netko zeli nesto i nauciti, pa i to sto i kako krave jedu i kakvo se mlijeko prodaje u Americi, a kakvo kod nas, buduci da ovdje ima i drugih vegetarijanaca, osim vegana.
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Ispricavam se na offtopicarenju (iako se meni ne cini da je to bilo offtopic, ali ok).
Mislila sam da netko zeli nesto i nauciti, pa i to sto i kako krave jedu i kakvo se mlijeko prodaje u Americi, a kakvo kod nas, buduci da ovdje ima i drugih vegetarijanaca, osim vegana.
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Ja želim naučiti tko to pije naše mlijeko,tj mlijeko naših krava i čime se to naše krave hrane...molim da je to potkrijepljeno dokazima


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nije stvar u tome što i kako si napisala, nego se predugo oteglo. pisalo se samo o kravama i čija baka ih bolje hrani....(ne mislim u uvrijedljivom smislu). smatram da ima i drugih stvari o kojima se može raspravljati.

Još neki razlozi za bezmesnu prehranu
(možda Vama bude prihvatljiv barem jedan!)
1. Nejedenjem mesa možda nećemo živjeti duže, ali svakako zdravije, kvalitetnije i kreativnije.
2. Kada bi svatko od nas bio prisiljen sam ubiti svoju hranu, većina bi odmah prešla na vegetarijansku ishranu.
3. Upućenom čovjeku je poznato da se u svijetu milijarde ljudi hrane vegetarijanski.
4. Jedenjem mesa dolazi do negativne pretvorbe energije, a jedenjem mesa mesoždera do dvostruke negativne pretvorbe energije (zbog toga je meso mesoždera smrdljivije i neukusnije).
5. Životinja osjeća smrtnu opasnost i luči razne ekstrakte (npr: adrenalin) u svoje stanice, koje mi onda unosimo u svoj organizam. Mi tako preuzimamo vibracije straha i nespokoja.
6. Radi povećanja stočne proizvodnje koriste se razni nedozvoljeni kemijski konzervansi koji mesu daju lijepu (i lažnu) crvenu boju i spriječavaju trulenje. Te kemikalije u organizmu stvaraju kancerogene spojeve koji mogu izazvati tumore.
7. Moramo biti svjesni da je našu potrebu da jedan dan budemo siti barem jedan živi organizam morao platiti jedinim što ima - svojim životom.
8. Savršeniji organizam ima pravo preživjeti na račun nesavršenijeg, ali tako da napravi najmanju štetu. Mjera savršenosti organizma je razvijenost njegovog duhovnog, mentalnog, emocionalnog i fizičkog tijela. Tko ne vjeruje da su biljke manje savršene od životinja, neka pokuša nanijeti bol jednoj životinji, biljci i jednom kamenu, te promatrati njihovu reakciju.
9. Da li biste u tanjuru prepoznali pečeni komad ljudskog mesa da vam ga netko servira u restoranu?
10. Rostovski manijak Andrej Čikatilo (56) je u razdoblju 1978-1991 godine ubio, silovao, pa pojeo 53 osobe (iako on tvrdi da na svom popisu ima 71 žrtvu) - a sud ga je, kako nebi izbjegao smrtnu kaznu, proglasio uračunljivim. Da li će se i ljudožderstvo, kao sada mesožderstvo, jednom smatrati normalnim ljudskim ponašanjem?
11. Radi ulaska u "Guinness Book of Records" jedan je čovjek pojeo i bicikl, pa opet to ne smatramo dokazom da i bicikli spadaju u hranu (bogatu željezom).
12. Po građi probavnih organa čovjek je bliži biljojedima. Kod ljudi mješovite ishrane hrana se duže zadržava u crijevima nego kod prirodnih mesoždera koji imaju znatno kraća crijeva. Time dolazi do truljenja hrane i resorpcije toksina u organizmu, što ozbiljno ugrožava zdravlje.
13. Čovjek je utoliko svežder, što ima slobodnu volju da sam izabere što će jesti. To je slobodan izbor njegove savjesti i nivoa svijesti.
14. Vegetarijanstvo ne znači samo način prehrane, već i životni stav (izbjegavanje alkohola, narkotika, duhana, sintetskih kemijskih tvari, pretjeranih količina soli i šećera).
15. Vitamin B12 , kojeg su protivnici vegetarijanstva stavljali u prvi plan, dokazano se nalazi u dovoljnim količinama u mlijeku, integralnim žitaricama, klicama i fermentiranoj hrani (npr. umak od soje).




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Ja želim naučiti tko to pije naše mlijeko,tj mlijeko naših krava i čime se to naše krave hrane...molim da je to potkrijepljeno dokazima
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ta tema je otvorena na Istina o mlijeku


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Ne zelim raspravljati o mlijeku s veganima, jer ga oni ne jedu.
I mislim da je nepristojno doci nekome u kucu i govoriti mu nesto protiv njegovih uvjerenja (osim ako nije rijec o socijalnoj sluzbi i zastiti djece).
Mislim da sam rekla dovoljno o mlijeku, za one koji zele znati vise, postoji Google, Plodovi zemlje, kontakti na stranicama Agronomskog, Veterinarskog i Prehrambeno-biotehnološkog fakulteta pa ih se moze nazvati/poslati mail i sl. Ja sam vec umorna od trazenja linkova koji, po mom dojmu, zapravo nikog ne zanimaju.


Jedna znanstvena studija o utjecaju vegetarijanstva na zdravlje

Stopa smrtnosti vegetarijanaca je slična ili niža nego kod ne-vegetarijanca. Rizik za bolesti uzrokovane deficitom nutrijenata su povecane kod vegana, ali ne i kod svih vegetarijanaca.
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